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		<title>Comment on About Carla Casilli by Kate Radionoff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate Radionoff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Carla:
I just found your badge blogs. We will be introduced badges this fall to assess student learning in professional development non-credit courses. We have run into a number of challenges but we believe it will provide considerable benefit to our students and their employer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carla:<br />
I just found your badge blogs. We will be introduced badges this fall to assess student learning in professional development non-credit courses. We have run into a number of challenges but we believe it will provide considerable benefit to our students and their employer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Badge pathways: part 2, the &#8220;quel&#8221; by Badge pathways: part 2, the &#34;quel&#34; &#124; ...</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 10:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] In the badge pathways paraquel post we discussed the importance of the whole system and how your badges can coalesce into something greater than its parts. But le...&#160; [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In the badge pathways paraquel post we discussed the importance of the whole system and how your badges can coalesce into something greater than its parts. But le&#8230;&nbsp; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on State of the Union: Mozilla Badges by State of the Union: Mozilla Badges &#124; Gamificati...</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/state-of-the-union-mozilla-badges/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[State of the Union: Mozilla Badges &#124; Gamificati...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 05:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Our work within Mozilla&#8212;co-creating great open source software, working with longstanding contributors, interacting with our larger volunteer community&#8212;ties in perfectly with badges. Recognizing pe...&#160; [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Our work within Mozilla&mdash;co-creating great open source software, working with longstanding contributors, interacting with our larger volunteer community&mdash;ties in perfectly with badges. Recognizing pe&#8230;&nbsp; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on State of the Union: Mozilla Badges by Emily Goligoski</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/state-of-the-union-mozilla-badges/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Goligoski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 15:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s great to see so many teams across Mozilla express interest in this form of recognition. Many of these groups are in different phases of designing and developing their badge systems, and we&#039;re working to create tools to help in the process of issuing badges. Stay tuned!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to see so many teams across Mozilla express interest in this form of recognition. Many of these groups are in different phases of designing and developing their badge systems, and we&#8217;re working to create tools to help in the process of issuing badges. Stay tuned!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Badge system design: investigating assumptions by Serge Ravet</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/badge-system-design-investigating-assumptions/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Serge Ravet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 09:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fully support your point of view, Les. I very much like your understanding of badges as &quot;little nuggets of intersecting significance between issuer and bearer.&quot; This is as close as it can be to the true nature of badges, as I see them.

While OB origins are strongly related to learning, what OBs are really about is &#039;trust&#039; (what you describe is a &#039;trust network&#039;, isn&#039;t it?). I believe that looking at badges from the sole point of learning could lead us to a dead end. Why? Because over 90% of so called &#039;learning technologies&#039; are &#039;impoverished technologies&#039; — take a &#039;regular&#039; technology, remove 98% of it&#039;s full potential, add 0.01% of &#039;learning&#039; (in fact &#039;teaching&#039;) and call it &#039;learning technology&#039; (think Drupal vs Mahara). Moreover while Google is not a &#039;learning technology&#039;, I learn more with Google than with all the Moodle of the world... Learning, trust, need general purpose technologies.

While OB has the potential to become a general purpose technology, I would hate to see it reduced to a(n) (empoverished) &#039;learning technology.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully support your point of view, Les. I very much like your understanding of badges as &#8220;little nuggets of intersecting significance between issuer and bearer.&#8221; This is as close as it can be to the true nature of badges, as I see them.</p>
<p>While OB origins are strongly related to learning, what OBs are really about is &#8216;trust&#8217; (what you describe is a &#8216;trust network&#8217;, isn&#8217;t it?). I believe that looking at badges from the sole point of learning could lead us to a dead end. Why? Because over 90% of so called &#8216;learning technologies&#8217; are &#8216;impoverished technologies&#8217; — take a &#8216;regular&#8217; technology, remove 98% of it&#8217;s full potential, add 0.01% of &#8216;learning&#8217; (in fact &#8216;teaching&#8217;) and call it &#8216;learning technology&#8217; (think Drupal vs Mahara). Moreover while Google is not a &#8216;learning technology&#8217;, I learn more with Google than with all the Moodle of the world&#8230; Learning, trust, need general purpose technologies.</p>
<p>While OB has the potential to become a general purpose technology, I would hate to see it reduced to a(n) (empoverished) &#8216;learning technology.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Badge pathways: part 2, the &#8220;quel&#8221; by Peter Rawsthorne</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/badge-pathways-part-2-the-quel/#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Rawsthorne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a fantastic post! Totally agree with all this. I believe a lot of my Heutagogical / Self-directed learner focus in using badges falls within the Desire pathways. Good to be getting a common vocabulary around all this. I do wonder if their is something between a Contract and Desire pathway, what happens with someone who is following a mentor and pursuing a set of badges based on someone who has been on a desire pathway for years?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic post! Totally agree with all this. I believe a lot of my Heutagogical / Self-directed learner focus in using badges falls within the Desire pathways. Good to be getting a common vocabulary around all this. I do wonder if their is something between a Contract and Desire pathway, what happens with someone who is following a mentor and pursuing a set of badges based on someone who has been on a desire pathway for years?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Badge pathways: part 2, the &#8220;quel&#8221; by Ross Higashi (@rosshigashi)</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/badge-pathways-part-2-the-quel/#comment-1099</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross Higashi (@rosshigashi)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with what you&#039;re saying, but I feel that while you&#039;ve spelled out the clear advantages to the fully learner-driven &quot;desire&quot; pathways, the unique merits of the others also deserve further exploration, particularly the middle-tier &quot;contract pathways&quot;.

A learner by definition does not have a full understanding of the material, and by extension, does not have a full awareness of the potential learning space. I may have liked computers in high school, but that doesn&#039;t mean I understood the full breadth of options available for study within that space -- I didn&#039;t know what I didn&#039;t know. To that end, I believe there is a place for prescriptive pathways in the learning space, as a map or survey of the domain.

There are many balances to be struck between the desire of the learner and his or her capacity for self-guidance. A &quot;contract&quot; pathway could hypothetically facilitate exploration of an unknown space by mapping it and setting some initial parameters. It could also create common points of reference for the various stakeholders in the ecosystem -- for students to orient themselves, for teachers and mentors to train to support, and for consumers to understand and accept. These qualities suggest that &quot;contract&quot; pathways could operate best alongside &quot;desire&quot; pathways, which have a far greater capacity for descriptive mapping.

Learning has need for both exploration and guidance -- they are complementary, not adversarial. Ultimately, I believe a functioning Open Badge ecosystem will and must include all types of pathways, because each has innate advantages, for different learners and at different times, and they will work best together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you&#8217;re saying, but I feel that while you&#8217;ve spelled out the clear advantages to the fully learner-driven &#8220;desire&#8221; pathways, the unique merits of the others also deserve further exploration, particularly the middle-tier &#8220;contract pathways&#8221;.</p>
<p>A learner by definition does not have a full understanding of the material, and by extension, does not have a full awareness of the potential learning space. I may have liked computers in high school, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I understood the full breadth of options available for study within that space &#8212; I didn&#8217;t know what I didn&#8217;t know. To that end, I believe there is a place for prescriptive pathways in the learning space, as a map or survey of the domain.</p>
<p>There are many balances to be struck between the desire of the learner and his or her capacity for self-guidance. A &#8220;contract&#8221; pathway could hypothetically facilitate exploration of an unknown space by mapping it and setting some initial parameters. It could also create common points of reference for the various stakeholders in the ecosystem &#8212; for students to orient themselves, for teachers and mentors to train to support, and for consumers to understand and accept. These qualities suggest that &#8220;contract&#8221; pathways could operate best alongside &#8220;desire&#8221; pathways, which have a far greater capacity for descriptive mapping.</p>
<p>Learning has need for both exploration and guidance &#8212; they are complementary, not adversarial. Ultimately, I believe a functioning Open Badge ecosystem will and must include all types of pathways, because each has innate advantages, for different learners and at different times, and they will work best together.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Badge pathways: part 2, the &#8220;quel&#8221; by Lyre Calliope (@CaptainCalliope)</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/badge-pathways-part-2-the-quel/#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyre Calliope (@CaptainCalliope)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 05:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I almost want to break the Desire pathway down further:

Intentional pathway
Similar to the Contract pathway in that the learner is projecting a way forward, but less stringent in that rerouting can occur at any point depending on changing internal and/or external conditions. An Intentional pathway is one a learner may be tentatively aiming toward, but not entirely committed to. This is a projected pathway that is likely to change as learning occurs. It may be valuable to document how projected paths change over time (perhaps attached as metadata at each point/badge along the learning trail) as a means for evaluating personal expectations and assessing growth.

Wandering pathway
Little to no pathway projection done up front. This pathway is truly explorational in nature!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost want to break the Desire pathway down further:</p>
<p>Intentional pathway<br />
Similar to the Contract pathway in that the learner is projecting a way forward, but less stringent in that rerouting can occur at any point depending on changing internal and/or external conditions. An Intentional pathway is one a learner may be tentatively aiming toward, but not entirely committed to. This is a projected pathway that is likely to change as learning occurs. It may be valuable to document how projected paths change over time (perhaps attached as metadata at each point/badge along the learning trail) as a means for evaluating personal expectations and assessing growth.</p>
<p>Wandering pathway<br />
Little to no pathway projection done up front. This pathway is truly explorational in nature!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Badge system design: investigating assumptions by Introducing Maker Party 2013. Join the open online course. Building Webmaker 2.0. &#124; openmatt</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/badge-system-design-investigating-assumptions/#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Introducing Maker Party 2013. Join the open online course. Building Webmaker 2.0. &#124; openmatt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Badge system design: investigating assumptions by Les Orchard</title>
		<link>http://carlacasilli.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/badge-system-design-investigating-assumptions/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Les Orchard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel like much of my interest in badges has very little to do with learning, so I never really have much to contribute in those discussions.

I&#039;m more interested in badges as representations of gratitude (eg. awards &amp; recognition); memorabilia (eg. &quot;I was there&quot;); and shared cultural context in a community (eg. memes &amp; stickers on laptops).

I guess all of those things can fall into participation, skill, and achievement buckets. But, in general, I see badges as little nuggets of intersecting significance between issuer and bearer. The issuer expresses significance by creating &amp; issuing a badge. The bearer confirms it by pursuing, accepting, &amp; displaying the badge. That includes learning, but also embraces a lot of other endeavors &amp; scenarios.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like much of my interest in badges has very little to do with learning, so I never really have much to contribute in those discussions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more interested in badges as representations of gratitude (eg. awards &amp; recognition); memorabilia (eg. &#8220;I was there&#8221;); and shared cultural context in a community (eg. memes &amp; stickers on laptops).</p>
<p>I guess all of those things can fall into participation, skill, and achievement buckets. But, in general, I see badges as little nuggets of intersecting significance between issuer and bearer. The issuer expresses significance by creating &amp; issuing a badge. The bearer confirms it by pursuing, accepting, &amp; displaying the badge. That includes learning, but also embraces a lot of other endeavors &amp; scenarios.</p>
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